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For Toyota's Lexus it's deja vu: floor mat problem prompts recall

GasBuddy Blog -- Late last week NHTSA issued this statement about Toyota's 2010 Lexus RX 350 and RX 450 H models, approximately 154,000 vehicles:

"After carefully reviewing the data, including consumer complaints and information provided by the manufacturer, NHTSA requested that Toyota conduct an immediate recall of the aforementioned Lexus vehicles for a serious safety issue involving potential pedal entrapment by the floor mat." Pedal entrapment can cause runaway acceleration.

If you think this sounds familiar, you're not imagining things. For Toyota's Lexus, it's deja vu all over again. NHTSA alerted Toyota to the same problem in 2009 for the Lexus ES350 and Lexus IS and Toyota responded to NHTSA that it was not certain that any "safety...

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Submitted Jul 03, 2012 By: PD

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FloorMats Rookie Author Orlando Posts:1 Points:120 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 9:25:56 AM Ignore FloorMats Report Abuse I don't understand why this matter was not considered during planning and testing and quality control, and it happened again? poor system or no system?
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 9:49:25 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse methinks me's having a deja vu moment too.
lunarrv15 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:14,882 Points:2,387,260 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 12:46:10 AM Ignore lunarrv15 Report Abuse okay...interesting thanks for posting
wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,037 Points:1,391,030 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 2:50:06 PM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse Yesterday's article.
GOBUTLER Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:1,425 Points:391,035 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 2:47:28 PM Ignore GOBUTLER Report Abuse Yes it is!!!
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,561 Points:275,220 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 2:17:16 PM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse old news.
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,268 Points:616,215 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:26:30 PM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse Hard to believe that people can control their cars when they can't even control their floor mats.
muquee Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,436 Points:524,070 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:17:13 PM Ignore muquee Report Abuse You would think this is tested to the nth degree before hand.
Digger52 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,417 Points:850,885 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:09:37 PM Ignore Digger52 Report Abuse Old, but still disturbing, news
Samo1961 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,905 Points:622,625 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:06:16 PM Ignore Samo1961 Report Abuse It seems Toyota is having a lot of recalls the last few years, what does this say about the company.
bluetatanka Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:56,240 Points:783,780 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:00:40 PM Ignore bluetatanka Report Abuse Glad I don't have a Toyota!
bootsy1966 Rookie Author Richmond Posts:4 Points:405 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 12:00:11 PM Ignore bootsy1966 Report Abuse Replaced mines with better ones!!
CheckitoutGuy Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,311 Points:769,590 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:59:42 AM Ignore CheckitoutGuy Report Abuse Yesterday's story
Caribou2011 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,776 Points:770,785 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:59:11 AM Ignore Caribou2011 Report Abuse Maybe they need to get the toy out of Toyota!!
nobodyMO Champion Author Kansas City Posts:2,251 Points:554,305 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:58:48 AM Ignore nobodyMO Report Abuse More recalls
outlaw329 Champion Author Austin Posts:7,626 Points:1,376,355 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:58:45 AM Ignore outlaw329 Report Abuse How many times is this? Send em back to japan!
Eagle68 Sophomore Author Boston Posts:223 Points:1,663,400 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:57:50 AM Ignore Eagle68 Report Abuse Will they ever learn?
jmg144 Champion Author Maryland Posts:9,711 Points:2,903,060 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:55:14 AM Ignore jmg144 Report Abuse Is there new Toyota management in the last few years.
grammamNV Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,335 Points:372,425 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:54:40 AM Ignore grammamNV Report Abuse is it really so hard to just fix/remove the floor mat???
adgam Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,264 Points:501,020 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:54:23 AM Ignore adgam Report Abuse kk
WE0H Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,534 Points:481,810 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:54:21 AM Ignore WE0H Report Abuse First off you can't 'jumper a computer' in a Prius and have the car function at all. Anything other than a factory floormat could possibly cause issues with the mat moving forward under pedals. It's called use your head, if the mat slides around, move it back or only use factory mats and make sure that mat anchor is fastened. Common sense is all that is needed.
GreenLegend Champion Author Raleigh Posts:1,642 Points:398,775 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:52:08 AM Ignore GreenLegend Report Abuse Mis-engineered FLOOR MATS!!!???
Jizme Champion Author Lincoln Posts:9,891 Points:2,907,725 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:50:31 AM Ignore Jizme Report Abuse They are probably saying deja poo.
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,730 Points:1,820,915 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:48:46 AM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse A continuing drama.
CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,079 Points:1,657,565 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:45:23 AM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse Manufacturers should not be responsible for how drivers kick their feet around and displace the mat.
dieselme2011 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:2,610 Points:605,765 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:45:10 AM Ignore dieselme2011 Report Abuse Old News
AC-302 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:26,597 Points:2,904,045 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:42:37 AM Ignore AC-302 Report Abuse Saw this yesterday. Toyota it not willing to admit that, yeah, something is wrong with the computers. Yet a professor at SIU-Carbondale was able to replicate the failure in the Prius by jumpering the computer. Toyota made a point of ignoring him. Toyota needs to have their backsides sued off, much like Ford with the Pinto of the '70s
toxigas Champion Author Oakland Posts:1,222 Points:409,240 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:42:25 AM Ignore toxigas Report Abuse The mechanical solution is probably a done deal. It's the potential litigation that's causing them to drag their feet.
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,450 Points:1,327,140 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:42:22 AM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse You wonder how Toyota deals with qulity control as well as they do when you see how they have handled this little problem. Oh wait! Maybe they don't deal well with this and their quality is a figment of the imagination of a loving press.
carefrey Champion Author Orlando Posts:5,545 Points:1,161,435 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:40:35 AM Ignore carefrey Report Abuse Old news!
WeasleyOC Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,159 Points:804,275 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:40:20 AM Ignore WeasleyOC Report Abuse Check your floor mats before you start to drive.
honkerman Champion Author San Jose Posts:44,337 Points:2,399,045 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:37:37 AM Ignore honkerman Report Abuse deja vu is not new
ampinoy13 Champion Author Oregon Posts:36,687 Points:2,653,305 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:37:21 AM Ignore ampinoy13 Report Abuse Yesterday's story.
kcboy Champion Author Utah Posts:3,983 Points:1,510,725 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:36:47 AM Ignore kcboy Report Abuse I don't believe it this is happening again. Can't they get it right.
Skunk63 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,562 Points:560,245 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:36:47 AM Ignore Skunk63 Report Abuse Uh oh.
fowlcan Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,125 Points:686,540 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:36:44 AM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse Buy American!
pitamon Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:4,909 Points:1,828,085 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:34:27 AM Ignore pitamon Report Abuse Here we go again.
greenfog Champion Author Illinois Posts:6,500 Points:1,640,970 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:33:53 AM Ignore greenfog Report Abuse sounds like they had better take floor mats out all together.
BobbyVA Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:5,519 Points:1,178,475 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:32:23 AM Ignore BobbyVA Report Abuse SOS, just like the Toyota problem eariler. People need to be spoon fed as they are now entitlement babies.
Suzy7Q Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:2,193 Points:372,480 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:29:58 AM Ignore Suzy7Q Report Abuse Thats what happen when you buy foreign made.
mickealo Champion Author Spokane Posts:6,172 Points:2,146,385 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:29:27 AM Ignore mickealo Report Abuse does happen I replaced mine when I bought it put good ones in it
SUSANCK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,652 Points:710,405 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:28:46 AM Ignore SUSANCK Report Abuse Sorry about that.
bobcatfan Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,613 Points:620,495 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:28:15 AM Ignore bobcatfan Report Abuse Buy American. Problem solved.
SUPERQUACK Champion Author Sacramento Posts:6,136 Points:1,913,780 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:28:01 AM Ignore SUPERQUACK Report Abuse Human error,as always
FrankTA2 Champion Author New York Posts:4,303 Points:1,097,260 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:28:01 AM Ignore FrankTA2 Report Abuse Didn't plan on buying a Toyota or Lexus anyway.
IMLURCH Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,194 Points:1,105,130 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:27:38 AM Ignore IMLURCH Report Abuse Old Story
ssduck Sophomore Author Orange County Posts:158 Points:1,666,060 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:27:25 AM Ignore ssduck Report Abuse ok
mindrisa Veteran Author Denver Posts:380 Points:134,830 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:25:55 AM Ignore mindrisa Report Abuse ok
jadeusa Champion Author Dallas Posts:9,349 Points:1,826,940 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:24:21 AM Ignore jadeusa Report Abuse Toyota is now being associated with recalls which is bad PR.
JENNYHK Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,651 Points:715,495 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2012 11:23:29 AM Ignore JENNYHK Report Abuse OK.