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Day Of The Diesel

FP -- Diesel engines on average offer about 25% greater fuel efficiency than a traditional combustion engine, or roughly the same amount of a hybrid, says George Magliano, IHS Global Insight analyst. But the extra value comes in the selling price. The average diesel-powered vehicle will cost about $2,000 more than a traditional internal combustion engine, while a hybrid variation might cost upwards of $7,000, depending on the make and model, he says.

The diesel option on the Grand Cherokee in 2008 cost $6,000 extra, but the resale value of the diesel Grand Cherokee commands up to a $10,000 premium to the gas model today.

Mercedes-Benz, for example, estimates that between 75% and 85% of its customers will choose diesel when given both options.


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Submitted Feb 26, 2012 By: Jumpmaster82
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SpankyMI
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:56:06 PM

I still smell diesel exhaust, I'm sure that cant be good.
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Jumpmaster82
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:55:34 PM

Notice everyone who has a diesel loves them, everyone who knows nothing about them dislikes them? The ones who drive them know the fuel costs more but they fill up less, so you folks who think diesel is so expensive are clueless to know that driven side by side to your gas powered cars, the guy with the diesel pays far less for fuel than you do.

I guess ignorance really is bliss!
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EvanRude
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:55:03 PM

ghmortensen - Diesel is more expensive per gallon, but less expensive per mile.
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Fuzzyb
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:54:29 PM

Get rid of the DPF!
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timarcos
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:54:27 PM

I don't use diesel
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ghmortensen
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:49:40 PM

The problem is diesel fuel is more expensive than gas and it will continue to rise at a faster rate than gas in the future.
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MattieDale
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:47:50 PM

I have said it before and I will say it again. CNG/LNG for cars and smaller trucks. Diesel for the big trucks & trains. The big engines just can't and shouldn't carry that much natural gas.
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sillywagon
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:44:42 PM

Then why are there so few choices for diesel engine cars and SUVs in the USA? If it's so great... bring them onto market.
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DerHahn
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:44:37 PM

the ford fiesta with the econetic diesel gets over 70mpg yet the ceo for ford america keeps saying there is no market for them. put them on the market here and then let the people decide.
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dieselfiendSC
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:43:53 PM

The only problem is the price of diesel.
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AngieMVA
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:41:41 PM

ok
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DEG
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:41:15 PM

The modern diesel engine makes a lot of sense to me.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:40:56 PM

Drove a diesel in the UK a few years back and it was very efficient and did not have the diesel smell, unlike the GM disasters from the late seventies.
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Protest high gas prices!!Picket the 15 highest priced gas stations in your area!! Join the gas price protest at the WALK ON WASHINGTON and at all the other State Capitals on Friday June 1st , 2012!! Bring your protest signs and let Big Oil know what you think of the obscene profits that Big Oil make at the expense of the American consumers!!
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woburnspotter2
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:37:03 PM

Article would help us more if it went further and did fuel price comparisons along with maintenance cost comparisons.

But I wonder . . .If it is so great, then why didn't they start putting diesel engins in SUVs and other vechicles that might be driven longer distances?
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:32:34 PM

fuelconscious is right.
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LucsPapa
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:31:54 PM

pse91 in Calgary... I don't know of any problems with diesel in cold climates that would be greater than those with propane and possibly natural gas.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:27:32 PM

I'd never drive one.
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alaskan101
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:25:59 PM

Interesting
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beachmanglen
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:25:40 PM

When diesel was first marketed as an automotive fuel, the oil companies told us that it would always be 10 - 15 cents less than gas. Here in Florida, it's 30 cents higher than the average cost of a regular gallon of gas. So add up the extra cost for the engine plus the price premium equals no savings. Thanks, but no thanks.
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LucsPapa
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:24:09 PM

Go diesel, go!!
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us4usa
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:22:50 PM

So is that duct tape on the hose to stop a leak???

Now tax dollars are paying Volt buyers $9000...
What next, FREE if you drive them off the lot???

Diesel has been the answer are a long time ovresea...

Looking at Cali. gas prices at some stations Diesel is cheaper then gas, then add 25% better MPG...

Switch everything over to diesel or GN and forget gasoline...
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jcotaxi
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:22:40 PM

Why stick to averages when you can skew the results by sorting for certain facts?
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:21:22 PM

Too many problems in COLD CLIMATES.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:18:12 PM

Groundhog Day
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:18:02 PM

I"d switch
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:16:57 PM

Our 11-year-old VW Golf diesel gets 40 mpg. We have no plans to get rid of it. Diesel fuel was more expensive than gasoline but in our area gasoline is increasing while diesel is staying stable.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:15:13 PM

Diesels are big in Europe where fuel is more expensive.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:09:50 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:08:24 PM

I hope not
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:04:25 PM

I would go diesel as well. We need a CNG option as well.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 10:04:10 PM

I will sell my car.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:59:08 PM

Fascinating.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:57:51 PM

More efficient than gas and less than a hybrid, sounds like a winner to me.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:55:36 PM

Diesels may help in the near term but they are no long-term solution.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:55:30 PM

diesel is a little expensive, though
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:54:43 PM

The new Volkswagen tdi diesel gets 73 mpg, why is it that we never hear about it here in the United States?
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:54:41 PM

We have needed more diesel choices in USA for a long time
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:51:59 PM

If GM would put a small diesel in a 1/2 ton truck that would get 25-30 MPG on the highway, I'd buy one
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:51:37 PM

I drive a 2010 Jetta TDI. Yes, I pay a little more for fuel, but get great gas mileage, 44 mpg on the highway, even 34-35 around town. Mileage on some vws is better than on many hybrids, and I can actually fit full size people in my car too. Alot of hybrids have no room for people or cargo. And then there is the battery issue with hybrids. Oh, and diesels don't stink anymore either, like some people think. I don't know why more people don't drive diesels. Diesel all the way!
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Trains have been diesel driven electric for years, and they can brag about their efficiency all day long.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:49:33 PM

If the price per gallon could just go down! It would more than make up for the increased cost.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:47:35 PM

bio diesel could be the win.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:45:39 PM

Really!
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I swear I learn something new every day. I love Gas Buddy's articles.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:42:01 PM

Diesels are great. New TDI probably doing better than volts on mileage. Volts alone in carpool lane, give me a break. Be the same of all others.
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:40:11 PM

Long known about the virtues of running diesel engines; more so with the advances with diesel technology today. Get the best of all worlds: a diesel hybrid.
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ritefielder
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:38:50 PM

Why do these articles pit diesels against hybrids. They are different tools for different circumstances. If you spend most of the time driving on the interstate then diesels are the way to go. If you spend most of your time driving in stop and go traffic then hybrids would be the better tool.
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Dear Lord: say it isn't so......who is 'FP'?
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too late to change models now
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2012 9:33:49 PM

Buy a diesel and if diesel fuel gets too expensive, it can easily be converted to run on Liquified Natural Gas (LNG). I predict that LNG will be the fuel of the future. All Electric Vehicles will never go far enough between long charges. Gasoline and diesel are going to get to be too expensive soon.
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If the price of diesel fuel could drop 10% or more sales of diesel vehicles would take off. It is more bang for the buck.
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